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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Ray View Post
    Great idea for a thread.

    Are there any good online bingo halls that serve a US-based player base?

    What's a standard CPA for bingo as compared to poker or casino?

    What's the competition like for a bingo affiliate, SEO-wise?
    the average CPA is much lower than other gambling games. It varies from £20 upto £70 to what ive seen.

    SEO wise bingo was the best gambling market imo, but now every one and there dog is chasing the same keywords.. so its much harder now than it was even going back 2 years. The ROI is much higher to obtain first page listings for keywords over 10k search volume than it once was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Ray View Post
    Great idea for a thread.

    Are there any good online bingo halls that serve a US-based player base?

    What's a standard CPA for bingo as compared to poker or casino?

    What's the competition like for a bingo affiliate, SEO-wise?
    Hey Randy,

    This was my bad for dropping the ball on getting you an answer. SuffolkPoker did a nice job from the UK standpoint so I'll try and do the same from the US.

    US Bingo Rooms worth promoting from my standpoint are:
    VistaGamingAffiliates.net - CyberBingo, BingoSky.com
    123BingoOnline.com and their skins like BreaktheBank Bingo
    Bingoroom.com once they can fix the registration errors that keep happening, but not until that is done.

    Not sure what the going US poker CPA is right now, I'd take $100 honestly. But for Bingo you should be able to get $75/player with a decent track record.

    Bingo SEO - try and rank for terms like 'best us bingo sites' 'us internet bingo' and 'free bingo bonus' etc. Those terms are money terms and there's realistically 7-8 portals that compete for all the terms.
    Randy Ray likes this.


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    Review - VistaGaming

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    I mean its not this is well concealed or anything. Except posting as "Resident Bingo Expert" and then all these posts such as this one here:
    US Bingo Rooms worth promoting from my standpoint are:
    VistaGamingAffiliates.net - CyberBingo, BingoSky.com
    In such anyone casually reading thinks that's being posted from a "resident bingo expert" who is an affiliate.. is what?. Saying that with a signature or marketing or clear indication you've worked for them and been your client fine.

    At least the reader knows this and no harm is done. I won't go into past where harm was actually done.. will just leave it at that fwiw. Also wouldn't of bothered posting if didn't think people were going to read it and get wrong idea. I had seen you push cyber bingo as great before (wasn't aware you're the AM) I looked at this out of curiosity just now.. and not some attack against you.
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    US online bingo sites are dire with poor conversions and even poorer customer retention programs. I think it was Jeremy who posted about poor conversions for US bingo players some weeks ago which is exactly what I have experienced plus what most others also experience with US online bingo programs

    UK online bingo is a billion pound industry compared to US online bingo which must be run on a bloody shoestring.

    I have just posted a post on my affiliate blog which just about sums it up IMO.

    UK Bingo Sites vs US Bingo Sites

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    Compare Online Bingo at CyberBingo: Online Bingo, Free Bingo, Online Slot Machines, Video Poker to Bingo | Play Online Bingo | Bingo Site of the Year! | Jackpotjoy.com and you will see there is no comparison. I still don't understand why those running US facing online bingo sites don't take a good look at UK online bingo sites to see what they are doing wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by addz123 View Post
    What's the average value of a UK bingo player? What's the conversion rate from signups> depositors. I also heard that bingo players have high term value becasue once they sign up to a bingo site they usually stay there forever.

    Is there a difference between UK and US bingo revenue figures? What's the average deposit size?
    With UK bingo players there is a great amount of crossover so increased revenue for affiliates. The conversion rates were high for UK online bingo traffic mainly because most online bingo operators spend a fortune on TV advertising and customer retention programs. Online bingo though has been "flogged to death" in the UK plus UK bingo players have now learned to shop around so conversion rates are falling.

    With US bingo traffic most affiliates I have spoken to have stated the players are in general much lower value than UK players. Conversion are also poorer as US bingo sites have next to no marketing budget, poor sites and poor customer retention programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramchip View Post
    US online bingo sites are dire with poor conversions and even poorer customer retention programs. I think it was Jeremy who posted about poor conversions for US bingo players some weeks ago which is exactly what I have experienced plus what most others also experience with US online bingo programs

    UK online bingo is a billion pound industry compared to US online bingo which must be run on a bloody shoestring.

    I have just posted a post on my affiliate blog which just about sums it up IMO.

    UK Bingo Sites vs US Bingo Sites
    No question that the bingo market in the UK is infinitely larger than the one in the US. However, even with the smaller number of players there are a few factors that make it worth while for affiliates.

    Let me say this before I go into the reasons. I have worked closely with VistaGamingAffiliates brands over the past couple years and I know personally that there are affiliates who focus strictly on US players earning $20k+ per month in commission. Not like the millions some poker guys earn, but still, worth their time.

    Competition, like Randy was asking earlier, the SEO battle isn't nearly as fierce for the money terms. You can realistically still start a site and rank quickly for great converting terms that players in the US search for when looking to deposit.

    Cash-Outs - This is the biggest one. US players for the most part withdraw 5x less than the average UK player. For one, they don't have as many places to play and the mindset is more casual than bonus/winning related. It's almost like a 'play for longer' on my free money and deposit than winning now and withdrawing like in the UK.

    Prop, thanks again for pointing out my professional endevours I actually did used to run several bingo portals and also before UIGEA I had my own white label. So I have been around the bingo market for some time now really on all sides. It's a simple vertical compared to poker and even casino. I could only imagine the content you could come up with for a bingo site man lol. It'd be entertaining to say the least!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Prop, thanks again for pointing out my professional endevours I actually did used to run several bingo portals and also before UIGEA I had my own white label. So I have been around the bingo market for some time now really on all sides.
    I'm familiar with that and not questioning you're probably the man when it comes to US bingo. I was just questioning speaking the method which you recommend these brands is posted as here's community member this forum has pushed, who knows tons about bingo and here is his recommendation. Even if the recommendation is entirely sincere, this is being done with no disclosure and I doubt it is common knowledge to readers that you're closely associated with them. It would just be nice etiquette to mention that.. if you're still the AM then CyberBingo Affiliate Manager in signature might suffice (anything like that). If you're no longer associated with then than a few extra works such as I was the AM or I used to work for these guys but sincerely I think they're great.. <-- no problem at all. What I'm suggesting is its not at all about not touting your deals.. I'm just suggesting giving even your personal opinion while holding the roll or having held the roll of being paid to grow their affiliate base. it would just be nice if some hint was given.. then the reader can take recommendation for what it is worth and decide. I also wouldn't mention this if it wasn't a reoccurring thing. Anyways no interest in following that up further so final thought from me on that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I could only imagine the content you could come up with for a bingo site man lol. It'd be entertaining to say the least!
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    I'm interested in the bingo chat. What sites/networks offer the best chat features, chat games/promotions, have the most active chat?

    Thanks

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