Sebastian

If only it was that easy. Not to discredit you with what you are saying but just because the link is a pr6 means diddly squat IMO.

Regardless of whether the link is a pr6 or a pr1 does not mean the page has the ability to pass pr. Obtaining high pr links from donation pages/module pages etc has been used many times before and while it probably did work well at one point I dont think it has the same effect if any now. Simply put, its been used and abused.

Finding the highest pr is not a well balanced seo strategy...

Kaus has a great point, I'm not trying to go at you either, but I'm getting a lot of PM's and IM's about some of these "Amazing SEO Strategies" you are marketing for yourself and I have to give my honest opinion.

The links affiliates are giving you for these "Super Amazing SEO Tips" are more valuable than the information you are giving out.

I know you've spent your time trying to find these shortcuts, but while some of these things like the RSS Feeds, the social bookmarking schemes, etc. They might give you a small result in the short term, having a successful SEO strategy takes time and is a long term process. It's not all about links and PR <<- That is a fact.

I recommend any new affiliate and you included concentrate on adding content and trying to get links organically. That is effective tried and true SEO and will yield LONG term results. There are no shortcuts.

Hi Kaus,

Thanks for your input. This is exactly what I am saying in my post. I don't want people to think this is the miracle pill for SEO. I just wanted to dispell the idea that a PR6 should be worth a fortune. FWIW, the pages I am talking about have few outbounds and do pass a good amount of juice and have not been abused by affiliates.

So excited ! I'll tell my mom a girl reads my blog !

hihi !

Seb

Hi Randy,

I certainly appreciate your feedback. Concerning the post titles, as you can understand, they are designed to attract clicks. "Average SEO tips" wouldn't be so compelling.

I take pleasure in helping out other affiliates and I think I have given out plenty for very little return. Ask Unknown webmaster... He told me he didn't have a poker site to give me links, and I gave him the RSS information he wanted for free (feel free to confirm Unknown). Ask Trickyplay, I was a day late to give him the RSS info so I gave him the web2.0 info for free and tons of other bonuses for the hell of it.

Concerning the techniques I am presenting being short term, or shortcuts, pardon my French, but this is BS. I think people have a lot of inertia when it comes to trying out new things, the reason is it's easier to be complacent then to take risks. I've only been an affiliate for 8 months, and I have already made 15K + from this so I don't think my advice is junk.

Furthermore, many of these strategies stem from super affiliates in the non gambling arena, such as Anik Singal, Amit Metha and others.

Again never did I write that getting PR6s was the miracle pill, you are just interpreting it that way. My article was just saying you can get a PR6 for 20 bucks.

Thanks for your feedback

Originally Posted by Randy

Kaus has a great point, I'm not trying to go at you either, but I'm getting a lot of PM's and IM's about some of these "Amazing SEO Strategies" you are marketing for yourself and I have to give my honest opinion.

The links affiliates are giving you for these "Super Amazing SEO Tips" are more valuable than the information you are giving out.

I know you've spent your time trying to find these shortcuts, but while some of these things like the RSS Feeds, the social bookmarking schemes, etc. They might give you a small result in the short term, having a successful SEO strategy takes time and is a long term process. It's not all about links and PR <<- That is a fact.

I recommend any new affiliate and you included concentrate on adding content and trying to get links organically. That is effective tried and true SEO and will yield LONG term results. There are no shortcuts.

lol about the mom

I think you missed my point. Even if a page has limited number of outgoing links, and even if the toolbar is green all the way it does not mean that page still has the ability to pass pr.


Link Building Basics: Why your link strategy sucks | SEO Theory - SEO Theory and Analysis Blog

Read the recap and if you find the article to be to long scroll down towards the bottom. 17 paragraphs down and read.

Even if the sites dont have many links whats to say in 3 mths they wont or 6 mths they wont. You pass on information to 5 people, they each tell two, and the chain begins. It takes one who decides that he is going to blog about an amazing link and drop the url...whatever the situation maybe if they have value, they wont for long.

Who are the sites listed on those sites linking to...everything plays a role in the value of a link and personally if a pr6 link is that easy (cheap) to obtain...it has very little value IMO.

I value the links I have which were difficult to get over the links which I can pay for.

I am not trying to slam you Seb, ...really Im not and I think its great that you are trying to help others but I am just trying to show you that a pr6 link is not always as cracked up as it appears to be.

Hi Kaus,

I agree with you again. However a paid link isn't necessarily easy to get if people don't know where the donations page is. If this is the case, the price is irrelevant.

I agree with Randy. I've read all the posts and felt the same - these methods are shortcuts IMO.

It's awesome that you've been able to make money that quickly Sebastian, and I get the impression that you have a great work ethic.

However, I think if you put all your effort into creating more high quality sites and building links your results will be even greater and more consistent in the long run.

That's a good point actually, these techniques apply primarily to mini sites.

I am following the pokerprop recommendation and developing both solid sites (that develop links organically) and mini-sites on the side.

Thanks for your feedback though Mike, you know I value it. And I know you went for the authority site route, with your main site, which I aspire to do as well.

I would argue that one could use these methods sparingly to complement an organic approach however.

Originally Posted by themike537

I agree with Randy. I've read all the posts and felt the same - these methods are shortcuts IMO.

It's awesome that you've been able to make money that quickly Sebastian, and I get the impression that you have a great work ethic.

However, I think if you put all your effort into creating more high quality sites and building links your results will be even greater and more consistent in the long run.

Would you feel comfortable explaining your strategy of finding and getting links from high PR donation/charity pages to Google? Would this strategy constitute a "link scheme"?

Hey Randy !

Nah I wouldn't lol. Again this only a tiny portion of a balanced strategy. I know you even wrote about this strategy on your blog on PAP. I agree that this is some sort of link scheme in the eyes of google if extended to a large scale.

I don't have time to read through the whole thing at the moment, but I want to confirm that Sebastian did indeed give me a bunch of links to RSS directories for free.

Originally Posted by Sebastian

Hey Randy !

Nah I wouldn't lol. Again this only a tiny portion of a balanced strategy. I know you even wrote about this strategy on your blog on PAP. I agree that this is some sort of link scheme in the eyes of google if extended to a large scale.

I actually used this as part of a linking strategy on a site a few years ago. Scorched earth. But I definitely over-did it.

Right...I actually try to focus on niche donations pages, like the international raccoon foundation. This allows me to stay underneath the Google radar. I also donate dead wild boars to the hunters of the Lasale forest to get link backs from their hunters page.

My advice: keep the hunters and the raccoons happy and you are on your way to getting great backlinks.

Regards,

Seb

PS: Sorry , feeling stupid lol.

Seb,

It is good that you try various new and old ways to improve your sites. Your approach will certainly lead you far.
This is by experimenting that you learn.

Thanks ZZpot,

You have a great site and I'm sure you will go very far with it too.

I am interested in this Sebastian but very exceptic.

Why any of your sites has at least PR4?

Originally Posted by Sebastian

Anik Singal, Amit Metha

These guys are the kings of hype. If you removed the words "Super" and "Free" from their vocabulary their business model would fall apart.

Originally Posted by MAC

I am interested in this Sebastian but very exceptic.

Why any of your sites has at least PR4?

Nah. Talking to some very good affiliates (Kaus), revealing the URLS would make the sites (whatever value they have which is debatable) worthless for everyone. Thanks for your interest though, and good luck.

Originally Posted by Sebastian

Nah. Talking to some very good affiliates (Kaus), revealing the URLS would make the sites (whatever value they have which is debatable) worthless for everyone. Thanks for your interest though, and good luck.

Do you mean you know how good affiliate am I?

Originally Posted by MAC

Do you mean you know how good affiliate am I?

LOL MAC. Not sure I understand the question. You can PM me if you have further questions on this. My last comment wasn't about you.

Regards