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[mojo]

Don't laugh at me. LOL

How do poker affs earn. You get paid on the pot? That is the Rake? How does a players bankroll affect you with wins and losses?

[CK]

How does a players bankroll affect you with wins and losses?

You pretty much have it mo however this question here got me. In poker I dont think a player who loses should effect your income but at certain rooms it does. There are two that take fees for deposits, added money a player wins, gifts in the gift shop ect. So at rooms like that a losing player can really reduce the amount you earn significantly. At one room I never ever made any money other than my sub affiliate earnings because I had players who made to many deposits. When I questioned how I could be in the hole when a player dropped xxxx in a matter of weeks I was told that it happens with losing players and will turn around when I find some winning players. That was it for me, almost 2 years later and I still wont bother to promote that room.

So although a group may say we pay 25% - 40% make sure you ask them what fees are passed on to the affiliate. theres been posts from affiliates about FT and making next to nothing after all was said and done.

[Chalkie]

Doh, i thought i was going to get my 1 a day learning in in this thread!

Thought i might be getting some tips on how to win at the tables or even how to start earning from poker affiliate marketing!



Seriously though, yes, you got paid a percentage of the pot and also a percentage of tournament fees with most rooms too!

Yes, a few rooms deduct all manner of charges from the MGR, mainly the bigger and more established rooms. In principle i agree with the charges, however, i dont like them.

In the main a new player at FT for me will not be worthwhile the first month because of the charges for deposits and bonus deductions etc, however, once past this point the earnings should mount up. Well, unlesss i am unlucky enough to find a player who is useless and never wins a bean. Dont forget that all they win will generally be more money for them to play with meaning more rake generated and more earnings.

Poker unlike casinos is deffo slightly opposite, we want winning players, you want losers!

[mojo]

Seriously though, yes, you got paid a percentage of the pot and also a percentage of tournament fees with most rooms too!

So it doesn't matter how many players contribute to the pot? If you have one player sitting at a table of 5 do you earn from all of those players? And the norm is 25%?

Yes, I'm clueless.

I questioned how I could be in the hole when a player dropped xxxx in a matter of weeks I was told that it happens with losing players and will turn around when I find some winning players.

This is so completely different from casinos. The more deposits the better. Except for wager share programs, we count on loses whereas poker affs count on wins.

[Stiankr]

There are mainly 2 different methods of collecting rake, the contributed and the dealt method.

Dealt method: The total rake for a hand is divided between all players that are dealt cards.

Contributed method: The total rake is divided between the players that actually contributed money to the pot. Some rooms also divide the rake depending on how much each player contributed to the pot/rake.

Then ofcourse the are some variations on these methods.

[Chalkie]

So it doesn't matter how many players contribute to the pot? If you have one player sitting at a table of 5 do you earn from all of those players? And the norm is 25%?

Yes, I'm clueless.



This is so completely different from casinos. The more deposits the better. Except for wager share programs, we count on loses whereas poker affs count on wins.

Not quite ...

You only earn from your players rake, whatever that may be. Percentages vary from 5% up to 50% in general, dependant on whether you are offering poker or poker with rakeback!

We dont count on wins, however, a winning player will most likely generate more rake as the more they win the more they play. Losing players are no good to us at a room that deducts deposit charges etc, however, they are no different if they are playing where there are no deductions.

An ideal situation is having a player at a room with no deductions who just plays mad stakes and has a bottomless wallet! Loser or not!

[Lenny]

Don't laugh at me. LOL

How do poker affs earn. You get paid on the pot? That is the Rake? How does a players bankroll affect you with wins and losses?

Mojo The more hands the player plays the more you earn.
There are 2 different types of rake, contributed and dealt. From my experience your better off with dealt.

In dealt, if there are 10 players at a table , as an example say the house rakes $2 from the hand, each players rake is worth 20 cents, now from that 20 cents you get your % , so if your on 25% you get 5 cents.

In contributed, we will use the same example as above, 10 players, only 3 play after the deal, the pot goes to showdown, the house takes a $3 rake, now each of the players that contributed in the hand are worth $1 of rake each and you earn your % of that $1. To earn by this method your player must contribute to the pot, so if you have tight players who only play a few pots you will not wind up making anything,

From my experience with the 2 I say the dealt method is better for earnings,

Now from the total amout of rake you make, some rooms deduct deposit and withdrawal fees, i have seen this as high at 10%, so if you have a fish who deposits $5000 and loses it all in a few hands you still owe the room $500 in fees.

Some rooms even charge you the full amount of the bonus given to the player, and if they have points and use them to buy shirts or something or use them to enter tournaments , you get charged for this.

In todays day its better taking cpa from stand alone poker rooms, if the poker room also has a side casino linked to it i would still stick to revshare .

[Unknown Webmaster]

Regarding which calculation method is best for the affiliate, I have spent quite a long time thinking about this from a player/rakeback perspective.

In general, dealt rake is best if you are sending good players and contributed is best if you are sending losing players, since good players tend to participate in less pots than bad players.

[mojo]

In dealt, if there are 10 players at a table , as an example say the house rakes $2 from the hand, each players rake is worth 20 cents, now from that 20 cents you get your % , so if your on 25% you get 5 cents.

In contributed, we will use the same example as above, 10 players, only 3 play after the deal, the pot goes to showdown, the house takes a $3 rake, now each of the players that contributed in the hand are worth $1 of rake each and you earn your % of that $1. To earn by this method your player must contribute to the pot, so if you have tight players who only play a few pots you will not wind up making anything,

Thanks for that Lenny! I've read it a few times and am feeling really blond.

How do you earn a living if one player is worth 5 cents per pot?

[Lenny]

Thanks for that Lenny! I've read it a few times and am feeling really blond.

How do you earn a living if one player is worth 5 cents per pot?

Just an example , say that player plays 200 hands a day , thats $10, now when you have 100 players its $1000. It adds up at the end of the month.

Remeber not like casinos, no matter if the player wins or loses, you still earn on him or her