Rogued Grand Prive going to Dublin Super Show

[GFPC]

In case anyone is interested who promote online casinos, I am sure some of you know the terribly rogued group " Grand Prive ". They will be attending the IGB event in Dublin. A member at the GPWA posted an email from them below

The iGaming Super Show is taking place from 24 to 26 May in Dublin, Ireland. The Grand Privé Affiliates Team will be in attendance and we would like to meet with you. This is your chance to sit down with us,
ask questions, give us your thoughts/feedback and discuss any future business opportunities. If you are attending the show and are interested in meeting with us, please drop us a mail and we will be more
than happy to set it up.

This has to be one of the worst ever programs ever and is never to be trusted. They still owe affiliates large sums of money. I am sure some members here can attest to that.

If anyone here plans to do business with them please be very very careful. Would be great if some affiliates who are going can relay them the message that they still owe affiliates thousands of dollars.

This is one group you must be cautious about - they are the definition of Rogue.

As a side note: Bwin is also a sponsor of the IGB event - go figure! Same can be said about them - be very careful.

[pokerprop]

Considering I wouldn't have went anyways, I'll be happy to boycott this and not attend.
Seriously though: GFPC, good job staying on top of this stuff, I know trying to fight big companies can get lonely when there is big money that feeds greed and covers corruption thrown into the mix, so I admire and appreciate all the effort you spend taking these things on.

[Jeremy]

I didn't follow any of the drama back in the day as I am not that much into casino's. But I do have a contact there now, and I'd be happy to help anyone recover any funds owed. I was under the impression that everyone had been paid now. Please have anyone still owed get in touch with me and I will forward it on to them and make sure it gets handled.

[Prenut]

I didn't follow any of the drama back in the day as I am not that much into casino's. But I do have a contact there now, and I'd be happy to help anyone recover any funds owed. I was under the impression that everyone had been paid now. Please have anyone still owed get in touch with me and I will forward it on to them and make sure it gets handled.

J I think they owe tons of people tons of money. They are probably the worst casino group ever, and if you got all the money they owed paid out you would be God.

[GFPC]

Hey Thanks Props appreciate the kind words. I wont go nuts like I did the last time (LOL) with Bwin - that took to much energy out of me to be honest - but at least it got things out there and some of the major groups listed them as Rogue or Predatory. I only bring this up now since there is allot of debate over at GPWA with cross promoters, predatory programs, and now IGB giving Bewinners Sponsorship privileges. It was also brought to my attention and I was called out by Corfman for still promoting some brands that I was fighting against for rogue practices. So in all fairness I must take some of the responsibility in that I still promoted Bwin for some time (to not lose previous earnings). However he was right - So i have removed Bwin from all the sites (couple of left to go). So after being called out I also decided to clean house of programs that are genuinely screwing affiliates even if it means I lose revenue. BWIN hit close to home for me back then and after they refused to post their old terms and were boycotted by the masses I decided to let it rest - except I was upset at the fact after all the comotion IGB gave them sponsorship privileges ( wont get into that). Anyways its a new industry now a days and all we can do is educate and share our thoughts. The task of getting all affiliates together to make a difference is extremely hard now a days since we have so many issues popping up daily and now with this US thing its even worse. I mainly wanted people to know there are issues with Bwin and they cant be trusted.

But more importantly then that - Grand Prive is such a larger issue and they are terribly worse then BWIN. They robbed so many affiliates and certainly have not come clean. They may have tried after that eCogra fiasco - but in the end many affiliates are still owed several thousands of dollars. I am not sure about affiliates here who frequent PAL - but certainly know of some from GPWA and AGD.

Thanks Jeremy for the offer to help out affiliates - I hope at some point you are able to get some affiliates paid what they were owed - but as far as i know its a terribly large amount and there are many - some of who gave up long ago. Getting this group back in the good graces of affiliates I never think will happen anytime soon and working with them in any capacity is a major risk IMO

[Jeremy]

Hey Thanks Props appreciate the kind words. I wont go nuts like I did the last time (LOL) with Bwin - that took to much energy out of me to be honest - but at least it got things out there and some of the major groups listed them as Rogue or Predatory. I only bring this up now since there is allot of debate over at GPWA with cross promoters, predatory programs, and now IGB giving Bewinners Sponsorship privileges. It was also brought to my attention and I was called out by Corfman for still promoting some brands that I was fighting against for rogue practices. So in all fairness I must take some of the responsibility in that I still promoted Bwin for some time (to not lose previous earnings). However he was right - So i have removed Bwin from all the sites (couple of left to go). So after being called out I also decided to clean house of programs that are genuinely screwing affiliates even if it means I lose revenue. BWIN hit close to home for me back then and after they refused to post their old terms and were boycotted by the masses I decided to let it rest - except I was upset at the fact after all the comotion IGB gave them sponsorship privileges ( wont get into that). Anyways its a new industry now a days and all we can do is educate and share our thoughts. The task of getting all affiliates together to make a difference is extremely hard now a days since we have so many issues popping up daily and now with this US thing its even worse. I mainly wanted people to know there are issues with Bwin and they cant be trusted.

But more importantly then that - Grand Prive is such a larger issue and they are terribly worse then BWIN. They robbed so many affiliates and certainly have not come clean. They may have tried after that eCogra fiasco - but in the end many affiliates are still owed several thousands of dollars. I am not sure about affiliates here who frequent PAL - but certainly know of some from GPWA and AGD.

Thanks Jeremy for the offer to help out affiliates - I hope at some point you are able to get some affiliates paid what they were owed - but as far as i know its a terribly large amount and there are many - some of who gave up long ago. Getting this group back in the good graces of affiliates I never think will happen anytime soon and working with them in any capacity is a major risk IMO

No problem, again I was not involved in the whole fiasco back in 08 or whenever, thank god. But I do know some of the people who are there now and they seem to be decent people as individuals. If any affiliate is still owed money from the program, please contact me and I will connect them with the right person there to get it sorted out and paid.

I'd actually encourage any affiliate owed money to post in this thread or PM me with details and I will personally bring it to them to help get a resolution.

[MJ]

J these guys are among the biggest crooks to ever engage in the industry - cut all ties yesterday if reputation is important to you.

Dominique and many others at gpwa are still owed xx,xxx. Search at gpwa for more. Or google:

grand prive affiliates - Google Search

I was never involved with them personally but remember reading the threads and watching Jtodds videos about it at APCW, with literally hundreds of properties out there I can't imagine why anyone would ever work with these guys again.

At least in Bwin's case they are a clear market leader for players and actually do pay commissions albeit predatory terms, at least the pay - unlike Grand Prive. Check it out.

[casinobonusguy]

I am owed $xx,xxx as is Dom and many others who have been offered pennies on the dollar.I assume Justin is your contact there Jeremy and I am sorry but this goes way over an affiliate manager's pay grade.They closed the program ,stole all of our players and future revenues and now expect us to work with them again.Not in my life time and no amount of PR or money is going to fix this .They asked through a third party to join our event in Niagara Falls and of course I thought of us sharpening our spears an tossing them over the balcony . I am proud that this is one thing we all agree on Grand Prive is Rogue .They made the choice to steal all our players and now want to throw some advertising money out and try to get back in.

[casinobonusguy]

IMO Decent people do not make a decent program and with all the videos JTODD and everyone else has done on this group I am truly shocked you never knew these things.Yes if you care about your reputation you won't be flying any Grand Prive banners any time soon.I was one of the people who filed a claim and was denied we started with them in 2005 and had a second account that was opened in 2006.The audit was a joke as quite a big of data was missing.

[pokerprop]

I had written a response after Jeremy comments, but then quickly realized he must truly not understand the situation with this company, and wanted to give others a chance to respond first. So anyways now here goes: This is a criminal company, I don't care how good someone was "once" as an individual, there is always an option to feed your family or whatever without going to work with known crooks who rob hard working people out of what is rightfully theirs. There will NEVER be an excuse for what happened with this company and imo anyone working for them should be completely shunned and banished from the online gambling industry entirely and permanently (plus companies who hire people who knowingly went to work for companies like this should be shunned as well). This one is not in the slightest bit questionable, there is little room for doubt. This is a toxic company, purely criminal, and anyone willing to associate with them should be fed to the dogs. Of course, this is not so much directed at Jeremy as I'm sure he was not aware of just how toxic of a company this is.