Live Dealer Casinos

[theglutton87]

Hey guys

I was looking at stating to promote live dealer casinos.

Has anyone had any experience with them and who is good to promote?

Is there any open to the USA? I think Live Phoenix and 5 Dimes are two I seen that do.


Cheers

[Mackan]

I have been promoting live dealer casinos since the beginning of that niche. Trying to send US players somewhere decent is a real struggle since Sportsbook.com left the US market. I would suggest you focus on the European market if you are going to push live casinos.

[Hazo]

What's the player value like for live dealer casinos for Euro players Mackan?

[Jeremy]

We just added SmartLive for your European traffic. They seem like a good non U.S. solution. They so live roulette and blackjack on television as well. Plus they have a large variety of casino, poker, sports products to promote.

[CoolDog]

I think I read somewhere that the Chinese prefer to have live dealers. I guess that would be a good market if achievable.

[michael1981]

I was going to say the say thing as Jeremy I'm going to join smartliveaffiliates.com and add their live casinos to my sites soon. I think fortune affiliates also has a couple of live casino brands - internationalslotsleague.com and internationalblackjackleague.com. All of those live dealer casinos don't accept USA players though.

[Mackan]

What's the player value like for live dealer casinos for Euro players Mackan?

I'm not going to give out my exact numbers here but I can tell you this.... If you have a site sending traffic that is specific to the games blackjack, Sic-Bo, Baccarat and Roulette you will be a LOT better off sending them to a live dealer casino rather than a RNG casino.

While Jeremy likes to say that SmartLive is a good option I would rather promote other brands (Evolution Gaming or Playtech powered, like Ladbrokes and Bet365) because the SmartLive games are NOT open 24/7 which is pretty bad for conversions.

[theglutton87]

SmartLive games are NOT open 24/7 which is pretty bad for conversions.

Oh wow, Didnt know this.

Seems like Bet365 and the likes are a better option so.

[Mackan]

Oh wow, Didnt know this.

Seems like Bet365 and the likes are a better option so.

If you are pushing live roulette games only then SmartLive could be an option as they have these "Auto Play" games (Click here to see what I mean - compared to the more social option at Ladbrokes) without a dealer but it's still streamed live. But I don't see the point for players going there when they can interact with real dealers at the other live casinos.

As an affiliate I would recommend Ladbrokes (Evolution powered) as they are taking stakes up to 20K Euro per hand at the blackjack tables and the same at even money bets on the roulette tables so if you catch a whale you will be rewarded accordingly.

If you compare those limits to the 1K Euro max bet at SmartLive and around 300 Euro max bet at the Playtech powered casinos it's obvious where the potential is.

The most affiliate friendly place to promote though is the LuckyLive and Celtic Casino affiliate program <----- My sub aff link. Their affiliate managers are by far the best I have ever come across in my years as an affiliate and they have the most affiliate friendly commission structure I have seen post UIGEA. If you are just starting out promoting live casinos I would def sign up with these guys first as they will help you out a lot in the beginning to get you going.

The only downside to the LuckyLive and Celtic Casino is that their blackjack tables are "early payout blackjack" <---- shameless linking to my own site. Some players like to have the option of cashing out early when they have a medium hand but others will be turned off by the fact that they don't really have much part in the decision making process (You can see what I'm talking about here).

[offyourface]

Just a note to those pushing any live dealer microgaming casinos. I recommend confirming whether or not your actually getting paid on live dealer revenue. A couple years back I remember finding out that Ladbrokes + 32red were cutting affiliates out on the live dealer revenue. And they weren't exactly forthcoming about letting affiliates know about this back then. I had to probe to find out.

I don't know if things have changed or not since then, just a heads up to get clarification so your not sending free traffic. Right now the only microgaming casino I know for sure pays affiliates on live dealer revenue is gowild.