Calling Out Brandon (Aced Poker)

[JohnG]

Although I originally bumped this issue now that all this stuff has come to light there isn't really anything else to say and it's basically pointless to continue discussing at this point imo.

Basically it's obviously a bad situation but that being said I think at this point it comes down to the two affiliates pursuing their own avenues if they want to and if not then it is what it is and is a lesson to all (which I am sure will be learned again in the future at some point).

I totally get what PokerProp is doing and it's obvious that he cares a lot about the well being of affiliates but at this point I think all that can be done has been. We know the company went bankrupt, the deals weren't handled well, etc so basically the goal was more or less achieved, to bring to light what actually happened with the company. After that, it's really just between the affiliates not paid and the involved parties.

As far as Jeremy goes, I don't think that he should be brought into this especially in the way he was unless you had irrefutable proof of what was speculated. At the end of the day, you have to realize that he is running a business like we all are and although it's horrible what happened with Aced he shouldn't be pressured into taking other sponsors down (Carbon) when it's not 100% clear that they've done anything unethical.

While I agree that it's strange that they would only pay out the small affiliate accounts and avoid the large ones, just imagine if they had let the room die with ALL players and affs getting screwed, then there really would be a huge witch hunt for Merge.

Anyways basically what I'm saying is I think it was def important to get this all out in the open so everyone could understand, but basically it's a pointless circle now and the affs should be left to deal privately with the situation.

Also,

Now with all that said: Kaus where where you the day Aced poker was sold? Can anyone verify that? and please don't leave the country. Thanks.

Level?

[pokerworx]

This doesn’t need to be in the public, calling out I think is BS im sure the guy with 50k stuck has talked a lot more than any single one of you guys here. More drama bombs imo.. I used to make x got 5000 people here.. Chill the fuk out the, people in the mess prolly 80% - 100% sorted + that this is brought up with these threads that has 0 to do with you or me. Give it a rest stop looking for dramas and make money 1999 is different than 2010. Stop looking for flaws, it is what it is get on with it.

[superiorword]

This doesn’t need to be in the public, calling out I think is BS im sure the guy with 50k stuck has talked a lot more than any single one of you guys here. More drama bombs imo.. I used to make x got 5000 people here.. Chill the fuk out the, people in the mess prolly 80% - 100% sorted + that this is brought up with these threads that has 0 to do with you or me. Give it a rest stop looking for dramas and make money 1999 is different than 2010. Stop looking for flaws, it is what it is get on with it.

Are you the EDMC from PAP forums? Just asking....

[pokerworx]

nope im the same name on PAP..... Yous are all a bit before me!

[pokerprop]

Although I originally bumped this issue now that all this stuff has come to light there isn't really anything else to say and it's basically pointless to continue discussing at this point imo.

Basically it's obviously a bad situation but that being said I think at this point it comes down to the two affiliates pursuing their own avenues if they want to and if not then it is what it is and is a lesson to all (which I am sure will be learned again in the future at some point).

I totally get what PokerProp is doing and it's obvious that he cares a lot about the well being of affiliates but at this point I think all that can be done has been. We know the company went bankrupt, the deals weren't handled well, etc so basically the goal was more or less achieved, to bring to light what actually happened with the company. After that, it's really just between the affiliates not paid and the involved parties.

As far as Jeremy goes, I don't think that he should be brought into this especially in the way he was unless you had irrefutable proof of what was speculated. At the end of the day, you have to realize that he is running a business like we all are and although it's horrible what happened with Aced he shouldn't be pressured into taking other sponsors down (Carbon) when it's not 100% clear that they've done anything unethical.

While I agree that it's strange that they would only pay out the small affiliate accounts and avoid the large ones, just imagine if they had let the room die with ALL players and affs getting screwed, then there really would be a huge witch hunt for Merge.

Anyways basically what I'm saying is I think it was def important to get this all out in the open so everyone could understand, but basically it's a pointless circle now and the affs should be left to deal privately with the situation.

Also,



Level?

Okay a few points and then really I don't care anymore:

1) There were more affiliates owed money for over a year that have come forward.

2) The reasons Aced (not Brandon) and Merge CEO are giving outside the forum as to why this occurred is a story they should be man enough to post. I try not to spread rumors and to only draw attention to areas that should be drawn attention to.

3) For various reasons a lot of people are scared to talk here, the only ones who are don't know or play dumb.

I'm going to just leave it at that.

The stuff Nick/Hazo, OzPoker etc said were occurring I thought they were a bit nuts and extreme but now I'm thinking they were pretty much spot on and made the correct decision to separate themselves from this forum. I said if this forum ever tilted me again I would self ban and walk away. I have some things to close up here though for now I'll try to just stay out of controversial topics as apparently most of those who care are gone now.

I've never been one to reserve comments but I've done a lot of protecting here in the past 24 hours.

There are MANY people here with first hand accounts of things worth saying so no not all that needs to be said has been said and there are still lingering issues at hand. Considering though I am the only one prying and many are now coming at me and i am needing to spend a lot of time defending myself I'm done.

If I find I can't coexist with them I will leave the forum then. Maybe I'll start a private forum to fill the void from posting here I don't know. But anyways as much as I hate to leave this how I have. I apologize to anyone it disapoints but I am not putting myself through this anymore.