What do you think of Bwin?

[Newjabber]

Title says it all

[MarkusS]

Yes

[MartinPO]

YES.

[Newjabber]

Ok thx

[CasinoMack]

Converts horribly for me and their backend is pretty terrible.

[Laurence]

Do you guys feel it's bad for sportsbetting too or are we just talking poker here?

[Nat Arem]

I don't know who in their right mind gets rid of pokerroom as a brand. That is pretty much what I think of them.

[pokerprop]

Agree with Nat here.

Interesting about 10 days ago I ran into someone with an entire van full of Bwin t-shirts wanting 100 baht each (about $3). It crossed my mind to purchase a bunch and give away as some promo or something knowing many people in different parts of Europe that would assist. Then though man dragging 200 t-shirts around Thailand, then storing them for a few months till i get them out just seems like a horrible idea lol. I sat poundering it though also wondering what he'd sell them for if I bought his entire supply giving him a few day vacation perhaps lol.

Anyways I tried promoting these guys and affiliate support was horrible to me (this was around 2006 or 2007) and they had a separate program for poker and for sports and didn't want me to cross them and then finally agreed to some lower rate for cross sign ups, then was just so confused and frustrated with them I just never bothered. Also not sure its changed but i had to just email them from links, then when had questions had vague and ambiguous responses that left me more confused and not wanting to deal with them any further.

[Prenut]

I don't know who in their right mind gets rid of pokerroom as a brand. That is pretty much what I think of them.

Pretty silly to toss away the brand plus the natural SE rankings. I guess bwin just sounds cooler, especially if you hate money.

[Laurence]

I'm interested in hearing if this brand converts for anyone? I would think they ball hard on the sportsbetting side of things, and intend to feature them in my new sportsbetting project as well. I thought Unibet and Bwin are the biggest sportsbetting players on the European market, is that wrong data?

I have had quite some contact with Paul Stanciu, and he has treated me well so far. I'll make sure to inquire thoroughly about the cross promotions.