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    Default Good to be back; advice on new programs?

    Hey guys,

    It's been a while, but I wanted to drop in again, see how everyone is doing, and ask for some advice. Man, things are really quiet in here these days, huh? I guess "depressing" would sort of encompass the entire poker affiliate industry right now, though.

    It looks like you're doing a nice job pretty much running things here, Randy. Jeremy and the old regulars seem to be totally gone, though. Hope you guys are doing well with whatever you're doing.

    I've spent the last 6 months redoing everything on my money site and finally getting with the times. That old stuff we were dominating with in 2005-2011 just doesn't work anymore. With 2 kids under 5 I don't have the time I would have spent a decade ago on it, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

    I'm seeing some decent improvement and learning a lot but, man, there just isn't a whole lot out there for poker right now. I've been stubborn for years now about expanding outside of poker because that's what I know best and can do completely on my own. I think it may finally be time. Conversions and just even finding decent programs anymore all just sucks.

    I'm curious if whoever is still around can help me fill in the blanks here on who you have had any sort of success with that I'm missing. I will use your sub link if you give me some decent info.

    POKER

    US
    Okay, so I'm promoting the obvious suspects and there are very few of them.

    BetOnline/SB. Still the only decent option to me. Converts fairly well and good rates. Treats players pretty well.
    ACR. Seems good for players and one of the few with trust and traffic but I hate their affiliate program. Awful conversions and terrible affiliate support. I just want to drop them.
    Full flush. I gave them a chance but they're obviously in scam territory now. Definitely going to drop them.

    The two names I have seen around besides that are Intertops and Juicy Stakes.

    Wasn't Juicy Stakes scamming players/affiliates at one point? Maybe still are?
    Do either/both have decent affiliate programs?
    Do they accept new US players?

    Anyone else I'm missing?

    Non-US
    A bunch of decent options for players, but I can't stand most of the affiliate programs. I leave up Stars because I feel like I have to, not because their program is any good. How am I an honest site without mentioning the probably the best place for average players to play? They're just too big to ignore now.

    Other than them the only places I feel comfortable with and don't waste traffic on are 888 and PKR. I don't think I want to expand this category unless I'm really missing someone I shouldn't?

    CASINO

    Honestly I have no experience with casino brands and affiliate programs aside from 888 and Bovada. Give me another couple of ideas and at least one US one? You still take CPA on casinos? I always do when I can for poker, but is the value much better on average with casinos?

    DFS

    Seems like an interesting crazy time for DFS. Reminds me a lot of online poker back in 2004-2005 when no one knew how to legislate it and there was a huge demand for it. It seems like this stuff is super popular.

    I have no clue what the affiliate side is like for it. Have you guys had any experience? I know about the two obvious big guns in DraftKings and FanDuel. Is that all everyone cares about or are there conversions with other places?

    Anyway, long post, I know, but that's what happens when you're gone for a year or two mostly from the forums.

    Like I said, I hope everyone is doing as well as can be. It's crazy to still be coming here in 2016, blessed enough to do this full time for 11 years now. Long live Party Riches.

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    Still,

    As you may or may not know, we have been VERY successful promoting DFS over the last 4 years.

    We are starting to see a plateau with FD and DK, but are still sending players. The challenge in DFS is always finding the #3 site to promote that will be around long term. Sites come and go and very few seem to last the long haul.

    If you are interested in promoting DFS, send me a PM and I can put you in touch with some of the other sites AMs that we think may last for the long term.

    Here is a site that we think could be a long-term player in the industry...we met with the owner (founder) and co-founder in Dallas, Texas a couple weeks back, shared beers and several hours of conversation. These are your typical genius Silicon Valley boys from California who are doing it more for the love of it, rather than just for the money. We can see their site and their model lasting and worth promoting...not to mention they are genuinely great guys.

    Here is our affiliate link which also acts as a sub-affiliate link as they have a tiered sub program that starts at 40% at the top and is 5% for several sub-tiers from there....

    DRAFT FURY DAILY FANTASY SPORTS

    ...and here is our sub-affiliate link that goes directly to their Affiliate Program info and signup page:

    DRAFT FURY AFFILIATE PROGRAM

    Our promo code should be embedded when you use the link to ensure you are tracked to us (it should be "realmoney").

    A tab with info to their referral program is easy to find at the tabs in the top right.

    Let us know if you decide to sign up and if you need email contacts (via PM).


    CHEERS and GOOD LUCK!

    corpfan1

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillshadow View Post
    CASINO

    Honestly I have no experience with casino brands and affiliate programs aside from 888 and Bovada. Give me another couple of ideas and at least one US one? You still take CPA on casinos? I always do when I can for poker, but is the value much better on average with casinos?
    Try Deckmedia & Affiliate Lounge

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    Yeah, Corp, I remember you have been doing sports stuff for a while so nice job on predicting the success of that and getting in early. Go ahead and PM me anything on any sports program since I'm really a noob in the field and need all the info I can get.

    I understand that the market for FD and DK is probably over saturated, but they're probably still essentials to include? How are their affiliate programs? I noticed the CPAs are crap compared to what I'm used to with poker. Hopefully that's because the conversions are higher. I would still probably take revenue share on them over the minuscule CPAs.

    Sweetbet, thanks for the tips on the casino programs. I like the look of Deckmedia and their brands seem to be promoted widely. The same goes for Ace Revenue. They both have a bunch of brands. Is there any advantage or increase in conversions to one over the other or is it just branding e.g. BetOnline and SportsBetting?

    I also see Bovada Casino/Slots.lv promoted a lot for obvious reasons. I've worked with them in other fields forever. Same question about that: is there any difference or just branding? I guess that would be an easy one for Riyaz, though.

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