Pokerstars stats with PAW suspicious or not?

[Catfish]

First thing - I do not mean to accuse anyone but it seems my stats for Stars through my PAW account seem to be a bit suspicious, to say the least. Since 1/2009 I have a deposit rate of 27% and a conversion rate of 6% (CPa's / PMPs).
This is very much out of sync considering that with other "weaker" programs my conversion rate is more like 30 - 40 percent (most of my signups come from my German sites and they convert very well ).
Does anyone have similar problems? Any possible explanation?
I have contacted Stars to get an account of my own, but they are considering to allow affs to have their own accounts for 6+ weeks now, but nothing happens.

[mitchell]

Hi Catfish,

Our stats are all derived from the rooms themselves.

Simply put we are operating off an affiliate account ourselves, so all tracking is done via the rooms and our system mirrors the reports that we receive from them.

In any doubt, we will always provide you with screenshots of your tracker's performance.

[Hazo]

Hi Mitchell,

You said you were going to get to us about why PAW stats have us with ~1/3 1st deposit/CPA ratio and those that promote direct have better than 8/10 ratio.

Any updates?

[Planet Mark]

Might be difficult for people to agree in public Catfish... maybe an anonymous poll could work??

Personally I find the PAW tracking confusing, exasperating, subject to seemingly random change and lacking visibility for one of my key business measures (new signups) for several rooms... however, they are a great bunch of professional people - so trust in the final numbers is not something I would personally question...

Having said that I'm waiting for more reliable reporting before moving any more of my business over!

Cheers, Mark

[KevinMcC]

My 1st Deposit:CPA rate was 7:1 last month

[MJ]

When you CPA guys talk about a 7:1 ratio are you inferring that 7 first time depositors result in 1 CPA qualified? Any idea how many of those on average qualify in later months?

Sorry for the derail, but I'm curious about the measure of extremely low MGR players who wouldn't qualify for a CPA but probably make you $20, and how much that adds up over time (especially with their potential to play again later, if the room doesn't go busto).

Sorry for the derail, just curious.

[KevinMcC]

Yeah my average since PAW put the deposit stats up is about 1 CPA paid for every 5 First deposits. Of course a couple of these players could earn me a CPA in the coming months so it is a little lower ratio, but it still seems off.


Also - Any body know what the CPA requirements for Party Poker is through PAW? Those stats seem a little strange to me too (Edit - the PAW site says $50 min deposit and 5 party points, which if still true seems like the stats are messed)

[MJ]

To further derail, has anyone ever figured out the MGR equivalent of any standard CPA deals?

[Hazo]

Isn't the qualification for Stars just 10 fpp?

[imteaz]

Isn't the qualification for Stars just 10 fpp?

No, its 100 FPP