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    I'm so tired of getting these emails from Absolute Poker. AP gives out your affiliate details even though they know we as affiliates can't provide the player rakeback via duplicate accounts and they signed up under a non-rake back affiliate! Talk about throwing us under the bus.

    "Hi, my name is Mike. I have been playing Absolute Poker for some time now. I am interested in a rakeback program. I have other poker accounts which all offer me rakeback.

    As you know... rakeback is very important for poker players. Without getting some % back then I will be forced to quit playing with Absolute Poker.

    Please advise me of what you want me to do.

    Thanks."


    My response is, sorry I guess you'll have to play somewhere else as I dont provide rakeback. (I already got paid my cpa anyways (not included in email)).

    I've asked Danielle and that's pretty much what we have to tell them. We can set them up under some sort of seperate account but it all has to be done manually per person...yea right.

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    Perhaps Ultimate bet rakeback would be a viable option? I know it doesn't solve the overall problem, but you do get paid twice this way no?
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    edit: I misread the OP, AP shouldn't be giving his email to the players directly.

    If you took a CPA what does it matter though? It's only a risk when you are on MGR (I'd never consider taking a CPA at AP myself).
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    Its actually a hybrid deal so I care to an extent.

    Me not knowing anything about rakeback, is there subaffiliate rakeback places out there where you can sign up and offer them rakeback without having to hassle with doing any reports or dealing with the players? If that's true, I'll just send them to UB and get double the revenue if they insist on constantly sending me these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Its actually a hybrid deal so I care to an extent.

    Me not knowing anything about rakeback, is there subaffiliate rakeback places out there where you can sign up and offer them rakeback without having to hassle with doing any reports or dealing with the players? If that's true, I'll just send them to UB and get double the revenue if they insist on constantly sending me these people.
    Poker Affiliate Solutions (PAS). I have not used this but from what I gather it is exactly what you want.

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    Also, this isn't an affiliate account if it matters, I don't even have an account there.

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    It's easy as shit to pay a player rakeback there and keep your own %'s if you choose to and they are asking for it - I bet Danielle would even do it for you all you would have to do is give her or Alex a list of the players you want it given to each month.

    I think you would be very happy to go this route man, especially if you are only going to give it to requests and not openly.

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    I think PAS is what I need. I just really don't want to bother emailing an affiliate manager and hoping they get the email to send money to these players. I have a hard enough time getting a response for a basic customized landing page (2 years and about 20 emails ignored).

    For shits sake, does anyone else get these emails? I surely can't be the only one. Only AP gives out personal affiliate details like this, as I've never gotten an email directly from a player asking for rakeback. Actually one from aced, but he knew he signed up from my site.

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    I wish I got those emails from ap, easy money.

    Pas will work well for you or any other sub provider but if you really are getting a lot of these emails you should just have a chat with Pete or someone that can set you up.

    I'm not 100% but I do believe ub was experimenting with doing autopayments on behalf of affiliates. Anyways good luck, talk to someone you trust that isn't trying to sell you on anything.

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    I signed up with PAS, pretty simple. Im not getting a ton, just a couple a month. It's just the tone of these fucking rakeback players. They demand that shit, lol. Don't know how rakeback affiliates dont go crazy. Thanks for the suggestions.

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    Maybe hire someone to handle it on commission basis for you I wouldn't want to give all those players to PAS.


 
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