PokerStars are paying me nowhere near the 20% they promised!

[Marvelon]

Hello- I am new to all this, so please be patient! Several months ago I signed up a French afiliate to Stars on a '20% revenue-share' basis. I realised there would be certain 'mysterious' deductions for promotions etc, but figured I would still make at least 15% or similar. Anyway, long story short, the player in question has subsequently racked up just under 5000 SNGs at an average buy-in of $5. I figure Stars to have made at least $2500 from my recommendation, and yet the amount they have paid me so far on the basis of my referral stands at under $100. They are completely unhelpful when I email them questioning this, or asking for a more detailed breakdown as to why my payments are so small! Can any more experience afiliates help me out with what's going on here? Is this normal? Am I essentailly paying the full 'new player sign up bonus' out of my own 'revenue-share' pocket? Can I expect things to improve in future? I am crushingly disappointed and have held off bringing the rest of my 'stable' of students/stakees over to Stars as the business-model I had factored in has nowhere near come close to being realised. Thx, Marv

[Newjabber]

Can I expect things to improve in future?

No. Stars are known for treating affiliates like shit. Go with another program, or live with poor stats, support and earnings.

[Marvelon]

Thanks Newjabber- I hadn't realised that...do you (or anyone else) have an idea of how much (percentage-wise) Stars 'revenue share' deal actually translates to (apprximately) over the long term? Also, any view on whehter Party Poker's scheme is markedly better? Thx, Marv

[GFPC]

Yeah do not send Stars good players like this. Its not worth it for you. Agreed on what Newjabber said. Stars will screw you - they always have.

[Newjabber]

Also, any view on whehter Party Poker's scheme is markedly better?

I wouldn´t focus so much on the sites specific listed deals. Go with a brand that you personally like and trust. A reliable brand that you would want to work with long term. Contact your personal top 5 sites and find out what the managers are like. If you have a solid site and traffic, then you can work out a custom deal. cpa, mrg, or monthly fee etc.

It is easy to get a 80% deal somewhere, but will the site or affiliate program be around in a year, and will the tracking be reliable!

[ptg]

The problem with promoting any French affiliate site is that they have to take a ton of money out for taxes because of their gaming law. Just be glad that you're at least making some money promoting to french players...

[pokergooddeal]

Is there anyone doing good in the French affiliate business? I was contemplating making in move in there, but I am hearing a lot of bad stuf..

ARJEL...

[rakebackengine]

It's a terrible market to work in

[leporello]

Stars actually announced a few weeks ago that they are considering quitting the French market because the taxes are so high.

[GFPC]

All i know is almost all my deposits to Poker stars 99% of them never qualify. I am starting to think...