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    Default Aced - Negative Carryover?

    So I think I know the answer, but it looks like Aced has negative carryover form month to month?

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    We do not have negative carryover on side games. If its due to a chargeback or bonus costs, then it does carry over.

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    According to your terms it sounds like anything negative is carried over:

    4.4 Time of Payment. Affiliate Fees will be paid and sent out to you within fifteen (15) days of the close of each calendar month, except that, if the total amount due for all Trackers is less than $50, the balance will be carried over and added to the next month's Affiliate Fees until the total amount is more than $50. Further, if the amount due is negative in any particular month, then that negative amount will carry over and be deducted against the following month. In the event, the balance amount carried over does not total $50 within a consecutive three (3) month period, then the amount due will be voided and cancelled,.

    4.9 Negative Gross Revenue: In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount during any given period(s), such negative amount shall be carried forward and deducted from the Gross Revenue amount of the relevant subsequent period of time. In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount for three (3) consecutive calendar months, we shall be entitled to terminate this Agreement.


    That kinda sucks... is this common practice by affiliate departments? And does that mean if your players are good and win a lot, you can terminate the affiliate agreement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    According to your terms it sounds like anything negative is carried over:

    4.4 Time of Payment. Affiliate Fees will be paid and sent out to you within fifteen (15) days of the close of each calendar month, except that, if the total amount due for all Trackers is less than $50, the balance will be carried over and added to the next month's Affiliate Fees until the total amount is more than $50. Further, if the amount due is negative in any particular month, then that negative amount will carry over and be deducted against the following month. In the event, the balance amount carried over does not total $50 within a consecutive three (3) month period, then the amount due will be voided and cancelled,.

    4.9 Negative Gross Revenue: In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount during any given period(s), such negative amount shall be carried forward and deducted from the Gross Revenue amount of the relevant subsequent period of time. In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount for three (3) consecutive calendar months, we shall be entitled to terminate this Agreement.


    That kinda sucks... is this common practice by affiliate departments? And does that mean if your players are good and win a lot, you can terminate the affiliate agreement?
    Ill have this amended because this is not correct.

    A. Never have negative carryover on side games.
    B. Bonus costs or charge backs will result in negative carry over.

    I am sorry for any confusion. I had these terms looked over by AGD before we started to insure none of the terms are predatory, but I failed to take our side games into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post

    That kinda sucks... is this common practice by affiliate departments? And does that mean if your players are good and win a lot, you can terminate the affiliate agreement?
    I think Full Tilt goes a step further and says that if you fail to send any players for 2 months they can terminate.

    FT Agreement section 11- 2.6 "Further, we may terminate this Agreement immediately, without notice, upon the occurrence of any of the following events:......The total number of new Players introduced by you in a sixty-day period is less than one;"
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    This is why Brandon is top notch. Someone brings up an issue and he immediately goes about solving it.

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    " In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount for three (3) consecutive calendar months, we shall be entitled to terminate this Agreement."

    This isn't a particularly enticing term. I have had a sportsbook affiliate account be negative for over 3 months, and have subsequently made some decent change from the account. Can this term be removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prenut View Post
    " In the event that the Gross Revenue quotient is a negative amount for three (3) consecutive calendar months, we shall be entitled to terminate this Agreement."

    This isn't a particularly enticing term. I have had a sportsbook affiliate account be negative for over 3 months, and have subsequently made some decent change from the account. Can this term be removed?
    Most definitely. When it was written, it was made for just a poker room. With side games, it changes the concept drastically.

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    Ok, I got to thinking about this, ACED is the only room that carry negatives over because of bonuses and promos.. Cake, FT, PDC, Walker, etc all do not and wipe them clean at the end of the month..

    Is this something you plan on changing? The reason for this is obvious as you know, if a couple bonus whores clear their 1k in bonuses and then move on to the next room, we are totally screwed.. This needs changed ASAP to come in line with other poker rooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    Ok, I got to thinking about this, ACED is the only room that carry negatives over because of bonuses and promos.. Cake, FT, PDC, Walker, etc all do not and wipe them clean at the end of the month..

    Is this something you plan on changing? The reason for this is obvious as you know, if a couple bonus whores clear their 1k in bonuses and then move on to the next room, we are totally screwed.. This needs changed ASAP to come in line with other poker rooms.
    It doesn't make any difference. The bonus is released in $5 increments, and the bonus is worth way less than even 50% rb.


 

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