What happens to casino revenues when subbing off a rakeback deal?

[leporello]

I recently noticed that I have some UB casino players on my own deal. However what happens when you sub through RakeUpdate/RakebackEngine/PokerAffiliateSolutions?

Do we get credited with casino rev share when the players we sign play in the casino? Specifically this applies to UB/Absiolute but obv can be applied to any other room that offers a casino.

[pokerworx]

All the merge rooms have casinos so does pkr.

[jdwanchalk]

All the merge rooms have casinos so does pkr.

? His question was what happens if a rakeback player plays in the casino, does it get added/subtracted from his earnings, not whether a site has a casino.

[pokerworx]

Yes I can read thanks for that! I would like to know to its not just ub/ap there are a list of sites that have casinos and sports betting, betfair is another.

[MJ]

His question is about being a SUB, and right now you do get hosed across the board. I understand plans are coming to change that but it's one reason I stopped subbing under any provider and went entirely direct.

[MJ]

Also worth noting if you want that revenue, you need to be willing to accept the risk.

If your rakeback players rev is 10k and you have a player hit a 10k slot payout, you still have to pay your rakeback that month.

[leporello]

Also worth noting if you want that revenue, you need to be willing to accept the risk.

If your rakeback players rev is 10k and you have a player hit a 10k slot payout, you still have to pay your rakeback that month.

Yeah I think the gains far outweigh the risks on that one.

RE: UB rakeback MJ, did you work something out with ChipLeader to have a higher % starting out?

[MJ]

Man sorry for theslow reply, yes I did do that but I already had a non rakeback account generating some revenue so I could show them I was serious.

[Ridge]

Also worth noting if you want that revenue, you need to be willing to accept the risk.

If your rakeback players rev is 10k and you have a player hit a 10k slot payout, you still have to pay your rakeback that month.

This is a tricky one, RU will give profit and loss from Casino activities if requested. I know of twice this year we saw someone on this plan get hit for 50k+ which wiped out months of revenue from the poker side of things.

So as long as you understand the risk that you could make 20k from poker one month, and in the same month has someone hit 30k playing casino = You getting nothing at best, or if there is carry over being down 10k.

Many times especially with sub partners, they like the idea of gain, but it can kill a business easily if you get hit with a large loss.

[Chalkie]

This is a tricky one, RU will give profit and loss from Casino activities if requested. I know of twice this year we saw someone on this plan get hit for 50k+ which wiped out months of revenue from the poker side of things.

So as long as you understand the risk that you could make 20k from poker one month, and in the same month has someone hit 30k playing casino = You getting nothing at best, or if there is carry over being down 10k.

Many times especially with sub partners, they like the idea of gain, but it can kill a business easily if you get hit with a large loss.

Not wishing to call you out her Randy, god forbid.

However, why would you want to offer the negatives reasons for people? I ask on the basis that ofc the master aff would obviously gain in this scenario!

Overall, would you suggest that the master affiliate would gain or lose if 100% of the subs did not claim casino and sportsbook revs?

It is a really genuine question and not posed to trip anyone up!