Formula to Increase PR?

[Grinderschool]

Hey guys, I'm trying to understand if there is a barebones formula to increase PR. For Example:

Given: PR 1 site

If we get 30 links from 30 PR2 sites, each with 10 combined outgoing and internal links that would increase our PR by:

30 * (2*.1) = 6 "Points"

Ourselves, we have 10 outgoing links + 10 internal links:

-20 * (1 *.1) = -5 "Points"

So 6-5 = adding 1 to our PR and would give us a PR2.

From what I've read I think this is what I've gathered or at least what it calculates to roughly in my head. Am I close?

Jeff

[parttimepoker]

No, this isn't a reliable formula for PR (doesn't scale at all, for one).

There is no authoritative word on this issue that I know of. Complicating the matter is that not all links are created equal and also that PR on the toolbar is only updated every few months or so. People were huge on PR sculpting (which similarly involved assigning linear values to links in a zero-sum environment) for a long time, but I believe that approach was tossed in the good old SEO trash bin awhile ago.

Bit more on the general issue straight from the horse's mouth (2009, but don't see why the fundamentals would have changed any)

PageRank sculpting

[yeahfree2]

this is one of the best locations explaining it well, Pagerank Explained. Google's PageRank and how to make the most of it.
read that one, or PageRank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i wouldn't spend too much time on it.

[Strider1973]

I wouldn't worry too much about pagerank.

But as what concerns your formula

1) outgoing links don't take away PR from your site, ignore them
2) PR is a logarithmic function. PR6 is not three times better than PR2. It might be a 1000 times better.

[Laurence]

Yeah I have a site with 5 visitors daily that received PR3 with the last update. It's a load of bull, just like the google keyword tool that is just way off in its numbers.

[Grinderschool]

Isn't the formula mentioned in this page a very similar one that I posted above? This would seem to contradict PTP's previous post.

this is one of the best locations explaining it well Pagerank Explained. Google's PageRank and how to make the most of it.

[Grinderschool]

If PR is not a good measure, then why do people pay more for a link on a PR3 site than a PR1 site?

Yeah I have a site with 5 visitors daily that received PR3 with the last update. It's a load of bull, just like the google keyword tool that is just way off in its numbers.

[ak]

PR does matter somewhat but nothing close to what it used to matter.

[parttimepoker]

If PR is not a good measure, then why do people pay more for a link on a PR3 site than a PR1 site?

Not everyone does. PR is just an easy shorthand for setting rates and it has more to do with the simplicity and ubiquity of PR than it does with PR being an absolute indicator of page quality. There are definitely some links with PR1 on this forum that would sell for more than some PR3 links.

That said, I don't think it's necessarily a load of bull; over a large enough sample size I do think higher PR does correlate to better page quality (at least from Google's point of view). With a small sample size, you'll definitely see some weird PR attached to some weird pages.

PR is a load of bull in the sense that you don't need to focus on improving your PR. What you need to focus on is good keyword targeting driven by solid conversion data and - if you want to buy links - buying targeted links on sites that have good, original content and reasonable backlink profiles.

Focusing on PR will mostly result in you wasting a bunch of time wading through the pool of SEO nonsense on the topic. Don't worry about it.

[Grinderschool]

I actually read the entire article again and I feel a better understanding of PR. More content = more overall site PR and with good link structures and incoming links = highPR.

Isn't the formula mentioned in this page a very similar one that I posted above? This would seem to contradict PTP's previous post.