What do these sites have in common?

[Stocks]

Well the answer is they have a penalty in google but I want to know why they have a penalty and if they all have something in common.

OddsTracker.com (my site)
OnlinePokerGuide.net
Sports.com
OfficialBettingOdds.com
Casinos.org

So if you search for a term like "Betting Odds" and if you go to the last few pages of the results you see a bunch of blogspot sites and other crap but you aslo see a few real sites home pages which seem out of place ranking all the way back there. You can do this for almost any term and a lot of the time you'll see sites home pages ranking back there I don't know if they all have the same type penalty.

All there sites should also be ranking #1 or atleast top 3 for their domain keyword like my site OddsTracker.com ranks 200th for the term "odds tracker" which is a term that basicly has no compition same with Official betting odds well atleast that site ranks 9th although it should be first and OnlinePokerGuide.net is way back on page 50 for the term "online poker guide"

I was wondering if anyone can see a common thread for whats wrong with these sites and then atleast we would be 1 step closer to fixing the problem if we knew what it was.

[parttimepoker]

No reason why sports.com or casinos.org would be anywhere near top rankings for "sports" or "casinos".

I still think you should just nuke your domain and start over - you could puzzle over this for months, if not years, and be no closer to an answer. There may not be a logical answer.

[Stocks]

No reason why sports.com or casinos.org would be anywhere near top rankings for "sports" or "casinos".

I still think you should just nuke your domain and start over - you could puzzle over this for months, if not years, and be no closer to an answer. There may not be a logical answer.

Ya I actually agree on those not being at the top I ment the other ones should rank near the top easily. My last site GamblingStrategy.net I basicly did nothing to get it to rank #1 for the term Gambling Strategy.

As for nuking the domain and starting over that is an absolute last resort option but something I plan to do if I can't get things figured out within the next couple months.

[addz123]

Why don't you check majestic SEO for backlink velocity over the last year? I'd do it myself but I'm watching madrid v barca right now.

[Scott]

I don't know much about this stuff, but it could be some of the links you have... Not sure if you hired someone to build links or what, but you have some links on spammy pages that aren't even in English... The pages have 1000's of links to Viagra and Adult links, which could have caused a penalty for your site maybe? An example is ç™’ã�•ã‚Œã�Ÿã�„ã�ªã‚‰ã‚¢ãƒ­ãƒžãƒ†ãƒ©ãƒ”ー » アロマテラピー・ガイド：アロマテム©ãƒ”ー（アロマセラピー）ã�®æƒ…å ±æ��供㠃»è¾žå…¸ã€€ã‚µã‚¤ãƒˆ (Comment 2114)... I'm not sure if that could cause your problems, but it might be... You also have some links on adult sites such as a link on a Briana Banks Blog I noticed when going through your links...

[ak]

I don't know much about this stuff, but it could be some of the links you have... Not sure if you hired someone to build links or what, but you have some links on spammy pages that aren't even in English... The pages have 1000's of links to Viagra and Adult links, which could have caused a penalty for your site maybe? An example is ç™’ã�•ã‚Œã�Ÿã�„ã�ªã‚‰ã‚¢ãƒ­ãƒžãƒ†ãƒ©ãƒ”ー » アロマテラピー・ガイド：アロマテム©ãƒ”ー（アロマセラピー）ã�®æƒ…å ±æ��供㠃»è¾žå…¸ã€€ã‚µã‚¤ãƒˆ (Comment 2114)... I'm not sure if that could cause your problems, but it might be... You also have some links on adult sites such as a link on a Briana Banks Blog I noticed when going through your links...

I would say that along with the many threads all over the net asking to buy links for the site in question.

HINT: don't post your website next to link buy articles/threads

[Stocks]

I would say that along with the many threads all over the net asking to buy links for the site in question.

HINT: don't post your website next to link buy articles/threads

I don't think I ever did that. Not really sure why someone would mention in a thread that they wanted to buy links and also mention the site they wanted to buy links for. If I did that I must of been really high.

[johnnyss]

Try to submit google reconsideration request.

Reconsideration requests - Webmaster Tools Help

[Stocks]

Why don't you check majestic SEO for backlink velocity over the last year? I'd do it myself but I'm watching madrid v barca right now.

Interesting site.

It shows a spike from none to 250 for my site for last april thats when I got that link wheel service but from what I've read on the subject the penalty for that should only last a couple months not 10 months. Onlinepokerguide shows a big spike from over 2 years ago it would seem to weird to penalize a site for something that long ago.

[Stocks]

Try to submit google reconsideration request.

Reconsideration requests - Webmaster Tools Help

Already tried it a while ago and google answered back saying my site didn't have a penalty. But apparently google only counts something as a penalty if it's a manual penalty not algorithym penalty.