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    Hi Everyone!

    My name is Gary Beal (aka - GaryTheScubaGuy)

    While I was in Amsterdam at the AAC and A4U Expo I met with Jeremy and Matt and we are joining up to do a 1-hr weekly SEO broadcast on Poker Affiliate Radio.

    I'm not sure if they want to do site clinics, Q&A's or what - but I'm up for anything. Guess I'll find out tomorrow.

    Anyhow, I though I'd kick things off with one of the strongest pieces of advice I can give to Affiliates - that being Advanced Geotargeting.

    Google changed the way they work outside the US to conform with their Geotargeting that has been in existence in the states for some time.

    This is where you create a subdomain and target a region. The rules have changed and not only can you pass 100% of the authority of a site from the primary URL, but you can target soft markets globally.

    Now before anyone asks, I have posted this in a few other forums, because the original took me weeks to put together and I'm a pecker typer so re-doing it is waaaaaay to resource heavy to rewrite every time - but not everyone goes to the other forums and even less find the thread once its buried.

    I think this would be a great 1st topic as its hot and I've run multiple tests on various sites and it works like a charm.

    So anyway, here goes;

    Using Geotargeting for Language and Regional Targeting

    The ways that people search and the results the search engines are delivering are evolving rapidly. Smarter queries and more complex algorithms mean that you need to use various techniques to be sure you are showing up in the results. Local search, advanced search, regional search and language-based searches are some of the filters an end-user or a search engine can use in determining who shows up, when they show up and where they show up.

    Geotargeting is one tool Google has refined and one that you can manipulate to a point in order to increase saturation in any market.
    Beyond the obvious on-page considerations, different searches will deliver (in most cases) a different set of results. The results can differ greatly depending on several considerations;
    1 .The IP of the end-user
    2 .The server location of the website
    3 .Any geographically targeted settings in Webmaster Central
    4 .The relationship between the search filters and the resulting web pages (I.e. Did they search for Pages from [region] or Pages in [language]
    5 .If the end-user is searching a different extension than the defaulted engine (they manually enter Google.com searching for US or English results in a non-US region.

    The other elements that will affect rankings will be back links;
    1 .Are the links from a TLD that matches the destination URL (I.e. .nl linking to a .nl website)?
    2 .Is the IP linking website located in the same region and the linked URL?
    3 .Page rank,linking anchor text, additional outbound links on the page linking to you
    4 .On-page relevancy
    5 .Language based meta-tags
    6 .Everything in the above 5 items relating to the linking website/page

    Any one of these elements can give you an edge over your competition.
    Searching any of Google's (non-US) datasets will generally return a variety of websites when no language or location filter is selected. These can include internal pages in a website, subdirectories (www.yoursite.com/french), subdomains (www.french.yoursite.com), and various TLD's (top level domains like .com and .nl). All 11 of the above factors are present in the automatic algorithm.

    The problem is that no one really knows which approach is best, or which algorithmic attribute is the most effective, so what can we do with this?
    What we want to do is to look at the existing results using the available search filters, and the existing websites that are ranking high and determine what the best strategy for your website is. This takes deep page analysis of your competitors.

    The important thing to note is that there is a hierarchy between one and the other in terms of which is the best solution. Every website has its own individual solution based on their demographics, site mechanics and available resources.

    What you need to consider are;
    1 .Your target market?
    2 .If you need or don't need geographical targeting?
    3 .If you need language based subdomains or subdirectories?
    4 .Should you move hosting?
    5 .Can I afford to do it all?

    How & When to Use Geographical Targeting

    Here's what to do if you wish to;
    Geographically target a region?
    1 .Create a subdomain or a subdirectory in the native language and use Webmaster Central to geographically target it
    2 .Host the subdomain on a server in the native region and use geographical targeting
    3 .Build back links from similar TLD's
    Target a specific language?
    1 .Create a subdirectory in the native language (I.e. www.yoursite.com/nl/)
    2 .Build back links from same language websites
    3 .Do not use geographical targeting

    The reason that you do not want to use geographical targeting along with a language-based strategy is that if the end-user searches in the native language on Google.com, a site using content in that language will be stronger than the same site with geographical targeting in place. (This isn't dependent on whether you use subdirectories or subdomains unless you hosted the subdomain in the target region).

    The answer for me is that I want it all...and NOW!!

    I've recently had subdomains rank with geographical targeting turned on and in the native language rank top 10 in 6 weeks. I've had brand new websites with the appropriate TLD's (I.e. .nl, .de & .es) show up in 8 weeks. I've even had a .com hosted in the US without geographical targeting show up in the top 10 results for “Hollywood” terms when they had never been in results in the UK.

    You can start with subdomains. Look at your logfiles to determine where the current traffic is coming from to tell you what to do first. Bounce rates can also tell you a lot.

    For example, if your secondary traffic source is Germany and you have a high bounce rate, start with a language-based subdirectory, then maybe move onto creating a subdomain, hosting it in Germany, then set the geographical targeting to Germany in Webmaster Central. Then go back and start all over again using the region that has the next highest contribution.

    Important Things to Remember!
    • To target a language using only subdirectories do not use geographic targeting
    • You can target a language with both subdomains and subdirectories but if you have a top-level TLD (.com) use subdirectories versus subdomains.
    • You can use Google geographical targeting on subdomains and subdirectories
    • Your title should be in the native language and/or use regional slang terms where they apply.
    • Use language-based meta tags whenever targeting language-based searches
    • Host subdomains that are for geographical targeting in the target region
    • When you implement the subdomain strategy, link to it from the original website
    • Create new sitemaps for each subdomain
    • When creating meta tags and content be sure to use native slang. (If you sold pants in the US and the UK. Pants are referred to as trousers. Sweaters are referred to as jumpers.
    • Get back links from same TLD's (get a .nl link to your .nl site in the native language)
    • If you have a TLD (like .nl or .de) do not use geographical targeting.

    These domains are already associated with its designated region

    So in a nutshell, I recommend that if you already have an existing website with a TLD like a .com or .cu.uk, and they are your target market, do not use the geographical targeting option. Start building subdirectories using the top native language determined by looking at Google Analytics or your log files. Identify your top referrer language. If the languages are close, as it the case between the US, UK, New Zealand and Australia, use native slang in the title, metatags and content. Build a new xml site map and manually submit it through all the main search engines.

    The next step is to create a subdomain and get it hosted in the region that you are targeting. Build content in the native language and get r submit it, as well as setting up the geographical target in Webmaster Central.

    By implementing this strategy, you will have a significant advantage over most of your competition (or a little less after this article is released).

    Whether the search is initiated in the region or outside the region, whether your site is located in the region or just hosted there, or even if they search in the native language or manually enter a specific Google engine like Google.com.mx or Google.es, you will have improved saturation.

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    Well, that is bad news that you will be on the radio, because I enjoyed listening before. Now there is no way I will be tuning in after the way you trashed Randy at GPWA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokermonger View Post
    Well, that is bad news that you will be on the radio, because I enjoyed listening before. Now there is no way I will be tuning in after the way you trashed Randy at GPWA.

    I agree, you should feel ashamed for what you said to Randy and should never treat anyone like that. I think its pretty damn comical you come on this forum and even post. Obv. this isn't my forum and I'm not speaking as a mod but as a member. You really need to re-think the way you treat people.

    I will have skip over your section or just stop listening to the show as well as long as you were apart of it, and its a shame too as I was the very first guest on that show. You sir, really have a ton of apologies to give out. I think you'll find that you have mis-treated a very dear friend of a lot of people on this forum.

    For those who don't know, : GPWA Link

    I'll also add trashing on Hazo to the list, people pointing out how bad other people's sites are is just wrong when not asked for. I'd LOVE to see your sites and see exactly what kind of "gaming SEO specialist" you are. Feel free to PM me even, let's compare.
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    To his credit, Gary apologized later in that thread. No big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Ray View Post
    To his credit, Gary apologized later in that thread. No big deal.
    I'm am glad to hear that, but still hard to respect anyone that acts such a way, and not just him because others in that thread were out of line.

    Also, without knowing the background of who is giving SEO advice, I think it will diminish any tips, strategy, and theory that is being discussed. This has nothing to do with him, but SEO advice in general. I'd rather hear an hour of hearing about J "calling" Greg's and Brandon's wives up.

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    I just finished reading the rest of that thread. I have been reading a fair bit on SEO recently and have stumbled across this arsehole Gary a little bit. From what I have seen, he is as blackhat as they come and his less than adequate advice has been pointed out by others on numerous occassions.

    I liked their attack on me over at GPWA too. I love the SEO on the first site I ever made that I haven't touched in months too

    P.s If this fuckwit becomes a part of PAL and their radio show I won't be posting here any more just like I won't at GPWA. That probably doesn't mean much but this industry has enough dodgy bastards as it is and I won't be apart of it.
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    Scubaboy, you either have the biggest balls or the smallest brain of anyone in our industry.

    Go the fuck away.

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    Hey guys, I had no idea that something transpired over at GPWA yesterday as I don't have much time to monitor all the forums lately.

    Out of respect to my long time friend Randy however, and the overall sentiment of the members here, we are going to hold off on having Gary on the show tomorrow.

    Instead we will be calling Brandon and Greg's wives.
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    I am going to make sure my wife is working so she wont get another call from Jeremy. She just now took down all the pictures of him that were in her bathroom. I am almost positive that Enke might be the 4th Jonas Brother.

    So, what else would everyone like to hear about tomorrow on the show? We might still do some geo-targeting discussions, some content discussion, a little more from Brandon on the meetup and whatever else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post

    For those who don't know, : GPWA Link
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    What are you trying to do, promote GPWA? Very suspicious Randy.


 

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