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    Quote Originally Posted by ramchip View Post
    Don’t start link building to your new site with just low quality links! In the first couple of weeks add authority links plus add links with high PR. Simply add a couple per day for the first 2 weeks.
    Nice post. Any good tips on how to find these types of links outside of poker? To find them here and there is one thing, but to find enough to do a couple per day is more difficult. If you have a special secret to share... my PM box is always open!

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    The sandbox is not the problem. Webmasters expect their new websites to rank for semi competitive phrases way too soon. They blame it on the sandbox when they just need more patience.

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    I wouldn't call the so-called Sandbox Effect a penalty. It's a throttling mechanism intended to reduce the impact of link manipulation. I would not recommend following anyone's advice on how to get around this effect. If everyone takes the same approach, the algorithm will eventually be adjusted to take that approach into consideration and nullify it.

    It is a far better idea NOT to share these kinds of tactics. Those that work may be risky or they may only be the kinds of ideas you get every 1-2 years. Just giving away effective algorithm-influencing ideas is self-defeating in the worst possible way: it ends up hurting everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Martinez View Post
    I wouldn't call the so-called Sandbox Effect a penalty. It's a throttling mechanism intended to reduce the impact of link manipulation. I would not recommend following anyone's advice on how to get around this effect. If everyone takes the same approach, the algorithm will eventually be adjusted to take that approach into consideration and nullify it.

    It is a far better idea NOT to share these kinds of tactics. Those that work may be risky or they may only be the kinds of ideas you get every 1-2 years. Just giving away effective algorithm-influencing ideas is self-defeating in the worst possible way: it ends up hurting everyone.
    I take your point and have removed my post. Was trying to helps those new to the industry but I guess your are right.

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    I'm not sure wheter the sandbox effect exists at all.
    What I personally think is that goolge rates new content high and then drops that content over the time to lower SERPs. So if you start a new site, put 20 articles live on day 1, the articles will rank pretty well once they are crawled. And if you cross your arms and just do nothing, all the pages will fade down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strider1973 View Post
    I'm not sure wheter the sandbox effect exists at all.
    What I personally think is that goolge rates new content high and then drops that content over the time to lower SERPs. So if you start a new site, put 20 articles live on day 1, the articles will rank pretty well once they are crawled. And if you cross your arms and just do nothing, all the pages will fade down.
    It exists. I have even seen some members of this forum build sites with exact matched domains with superb content in the last month that I knew were going to be sandboxed and they indeed have.

    I spend a lot of time with test sites, perhaps too much time if I'm honest and I have seen not only in my sites but in others the sandbox effect time after time. In many cases the quality content does not simply fade it vanishes from the index for weeks or in some cases months. After a period of time the pages come back in many cases with a decent ranking.

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    I think I am going through this with my march madness site I have been blogging about......perfect timing

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinMcC69 View Post
    I think I am going through this with my march madness site I have been blogging about......perfect timing
    Yep yours was one I was talking about. It will come back strong but I'm sorry to say it may not be this month.

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    I had some nice links going towards the site, I think I may have built a little too many too quickly... but I've done similar things in the past and I can't recall ever being "sandboxed"

    tough luck, will have to try and send traffic from other sources


 

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