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    Default What poker hand do you think this guy has

    Seeing the last thread was so interesting heres a hand from a couple days ago that I find kind of interesting because I did something and it worked.

    PokerStars - $1/$2 (10 max) - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: PokerTracker - Online Poker Software, Player Stats Tracking & HUD

    LP: $26.00
    Hero (CO): $57.50
    BTN: $37.50
    SB: $47.25
    BB: $15.00
    UTG: $64.75
    UTG+1: $26.00
    MP: $59.50
    MP+1: $43.25

    SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

    Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has Td Ts

    UTG raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $4.00, Hero calls $1.00

    Flop: ($9.50, 2 players) 9h 4d Ac
    UTG bets $1.00, Hero raises to $2.00, fold

    Hero wins $11.00


    I know this player he's a regular and he's kind of aggressive he's actually the player that I have won the most from.

    At the time of the hand after he 3 bet me preflop I thought he had a big pocket pair so when the ace hit the flop I decided to rep the ace so when he bet I raised hoping that he had a big pocket pair and would fold and thats what happend but after I thought about it for a while I don't think he had a big pocket pair like KK or QQ I think he had something else very specific and I was just wondering if anyone else thinks the same.

    Post your answers to what you think he had. Also if you want any specific stats on this guy to come up with an answer just let me know I'll look them up on PT I've played a fair amount with this guy.

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    Without any other data you have to assume KK or QQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Willis View Post
    Without any other data you have to assume KK or QQ.
    Yes at first thats exactly what I thought he had but after I thought about it for a minute I quickly changed my mind becuase usually the standard play there at these levels people will almost always call the $1 flop raise and then usually check call the rest of the way hoping to hit they're set and if they dont they still usually call the river aswell. So because of this I did'nt think he had a big pair or any pair plus we know he never had an ace.

    By the way if you want any data like VPIP or PR or anything else just let me know I'll look it up.

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    I know its not an interesting hand I just found it so very odd how the other guy folded right away I know that seems like the logical play but it just don't happen usually they call a flop raise with absolutely anything especially any pocket pair let along KK or QQ they even call with backdoor flush draws then check fold the turn if they're hand hase'nt improved so thats why I keep thinking what could he possible have had to raise UTG then 3bet me preflop then bet fold on this flop 9h 4d Ac

    KQ of spades only hand I think he does this with.

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    If he is bad enough to do it with KsQs he is bad enough to do it with a lot of other crap. Put your opponent on a range, not one single hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeraussie View Post
    If he is bad enough to do it with KsQs he is bad enough to do it with a lot of other crap. Put your opponent on a range, not one single hand.
    But that dont make this game of guess what hand he had half as fun I was just curious what other people thought if they were forced to put him on a single hand.

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    As you mentioned what the standard play is there with a big pocket pair... I don't understand why you would be raising the cbet from utg who showed alot of pre-flop strength based on his early position raise and re-raising against your 10s. It doesn't matter if he's aggressive or lose, this seems like a very neg ev decision in limit.

    You represented an ace enough to make him fold a bigger pair, but that's beside the point. If he would have check called to the river with an Ace, kings, queens, jacks, or KQ that hit the turn or river, I would think that you would feel kind of fishy.

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    77 - kk

    If he knows you then mayb e 22- jj

    at that level there is no fear so he could just as likely have 67o

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    I used to play a lot of limit hold'em and to be 100% honest and without having the benefit of watching the players then it could easily have been 7-8 or 33.

    Limit players rarely fold a big pair on the flop even if the ace is showing, especially at these low levels. IMO there is no way you were behind and he didn't have a big pair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaTryIt View Post
    I used to play a lot of limit hold'em and to be 100% honest and without having the benefit of watching the players then it could easily have been 7-8 or 33.

    Limit players rarely fold a big pair on the flop even if the ace is showing, especially at these low levels. IMO there is no way you were behind and he didn't have a big pair.
    Ya I agree I think if he had an actual some what good hand KQ suited or maybe even QJ suited but I also agree he could also have had a small pocket pair and or something like 78 suited and was just trying to pull some shit although him being a regular and me being the tightest regular player preflop at these levels I think he should have known I actually had something decent to 3 bet him but your right who the fuck knows what players at these level have. Everyday I'm literly shocked at some of the hands I see turned over.


 

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