How not to play a flopped set OOP

[Newjabber]

100% with jd here.

Flop is played as bad as possible and on the turn i guess you just have to fold because of your mistake.
You are proberly beat by a straight now, or up against a higher set.

Weak passive imo, should have stopped after 11 hours.

[pokeraussie]

It doesn't matter, you have to shove at that point and hope one of them calls or, at worst, you take down the pot for what it is. You are risking way, way too much by only calling.

I guess I see your point. It's possible combo draws + pair/draws are still calling and if one of them has two pair there a lot of scare cards that could kill the action on the turn so I am thinking I should have shoved regardless of how they perceived my strength. Does the BTN raise sizing tell you anything?

Weak passive imo, should have stopped after 11 hours.

I don't think I lost a hand the last 2 hours of play, it had nothing to do with playing for too long and I still don't think flat calling in this spot is terrible.

The majority of the time the cbettor is folding and I am getting it in on the turn with the best hand.

[leporello]

Well when we shove flop we really define our range as the nuts, sets and strong draws. I would assume a bluff frequency of close to 0 if anyone shoves the flop. With 100bbs here though and the pot so big, you should be protecting your hand and just getting it in as your hand looks ridiculously strong when you flat that flop raise with 100bbs.

[pokeraussie]

Well when we shove flop we really define our range as the nuts, sets and strong draws. I would assume a bluff frequency of close to 0 if anyone shoves the flop. With 100bbs here though and the pot so big, you should be protecting your hand and just getting it in as your hand looks ridiculously strong when you flat that flop raise with 100bbs.

I completely agree this is never going to be a bluff and the raiser on the BTN was certainly competent enough to realize this and I think it was even possible for him to fold 2 pair if I shoved he would have respected my all-in. Considering the cbettor had invested only $30 into the pot its also really difficult for him to call with worse based on how the hand has played out. If there were fish in the hand I would have insta shoved.

[parttimepoker]

What are the blinds in this game?

In live games I see people overcall like OP did with all kinds of draws, definitely doesn't have to be nuts to flat here.

The fact that opponent would fold two pair to shove is exactly why you flat here. It might set off alarm bells, but shoving would set off louder ones.

[pokeraussie]

What are the blinds in this game?

In live games I see people overcall like OP did with all kinds of draws, definitely doesn't have to be nuts to flat here.

The fact that opponent would fold two pair to shove is exactly why you flat here. It might set off alarm bells, but shoving would set off louder ones.

I'm no balla just $1/$2.

I didn't want to fold out 2 pair and I felt like he could even be raising this flop with just TP which I didn't want to fold out either.

[jdwanchalk]

What are the blinds in this game?

In live games I see people overcall like OP did with all kinds of draws, definitely doesn't have to be nuts to flat here.

The fact that opponent would fold two pair to shove is exactly why you flat here. It might set off alarm bells, but shoving would set off louder ones.

There is a very, very small amount of $1/$2 players who would fold an overpair to his shove on the flop, let alone two pair (assuming <150 bb stacks). I think you are greatly underestimating how bad live $1/$2 players are.

[pokeraussie]

There is a very, very small amount of $1/$2 players who would fold an overpair to his shove on the flop, let alone two pair (assuming <150 bb stacks). I think you are greatly underestimating how bad live $1/$2 players are.

That's true for the most part but this player was one of the few 1/$2 players that would have considered it (was talking and playing with him for a while he was seated next to me).

I also had a read that he made a looseish call pre-flop so an overpair wasn't in his range, he either had TP, 2 pair, pair/draw, or straight.

Like I said if there were fish in this hand I think this is a really easy shove on the flop a lot of worse made hands and draws will call, however, there wasn't, which made the hand more interesting and the reason I felt the need to change my line.

[mindfreak]

Put in a bet half the size of the pot. Guys with AK AQ will usually call.