Online poker study reveals counterintuitive trend

[PokerDude]

I concur with this study thoroughly. It's not the Win rate that matters, it is the profit factor. Same holds true in Trading of financial instruments.

[pokeraussie]

I concur with this study thoroughly. It's not the Win rate that matters, it is the profit factor. Same holds true in Trading of financial instruments.

how is there no correlation? if your win rate is not good enough to make a consistent profit, then you are not a winning player.

[CasinoKev]

i haven't read the article but i don't really get what they are trying to say.

if you are a winning small stakes player, you are good enough to take the bad beats, otherwise you wouldn't be a winning player.

is there something i'm not getting?

@CasinoKev

the novice players who think they need to win every pot whilst not taking into account the situation are not winning players, so i don't get your point either.

It says that the more hands a player wins, the less likely he or she is to be a winning player. There's a difference between winning hands and winning money.

For instance, imagine a player raising every hand. He'll win a lot small pots by picking up and blinds and betting the flop when his opponents miss.

Eventually someone will wait for the opportunity to trap him with a big hand, winning a huge pot.

[pokeraussie]

i thought you had to pay for the article subscription service?

thanks for the clarification i get it now... in other words you want to win fewer bigger pots with selective aggression, which is what a good winning player will do.

most LAGs that get involved in too many pots and always try to win at all costs are losing players for the most part anyway.

[pokeragain]

I did not read the article, but basically a winner will win based on the number of times he win and the average pot size he wins.

Intuitively people with many small wins are the nits, not taking risks; but the great players may 3-barrel bluff all in with air, as they seek the big pots; so they will fail (lose) more often, but overall win bigger pots when then win, hence be bigger winners overall.

[Michael Martinez]

In my experience the only people who win are those who leave the table with more money than they brought to it.