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    Not nice, it's unbelievable the lengths thieves...

    Not nice, it's unbelievable the lengths thieves will go to justify their sociopathic behavoir.

    __"This article is provided as a service of National Wind Watch Inc.," says a note at the end of the...
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    No, they aren't going after such things, and they...

    No, they aren't going after such things, and they don't have a legal right to. They also explicitly state their support for fair use. The issue here is whole articles, or something like 2/3 an...
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    You have called content thieves "innocent...

    You have called content thieves "innocent victims." Your statements directly contradict each other, so the rest of us will never know what you actually do believe, or how you reconcile these things....
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    For the third or fourth time, stop pretending...

    For the third or fourth time, stop pretending that link makes your point. It does not show anything that you are asserting... it's like you pointing to this thread quoting yourself making the...
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    Pokerkeep has asserted the false point several...

    Pokerkeep has asserted the false point several times. He's been asked several times to produce even one example, let alone a significant percenate of the suits, like 20+, where a suit was filed for...
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    Please. How does that obscure and inaccurate...

    Please. How does that obscure and inaccurate trifle apply? *You* already pointed out youself how this extremely obscure summary thing is factually wrong, as LVRJ post was from May, not June 1!
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    I suspect your viewpoint would be different if...

    I suspect your viewpoint would be different if these "innocent victims" had stolen from your websites... and done it for years... and mostly made a profit from it... but sometimes only hurt you by...
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    No you did not, unless you are taking the...

    No you did not, unless you are taking the position that stealing 4 of six paragraphs is a "snippet".

    The Sun article has a series of people claiming they can't be sued for theft because they are...
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    I didn't personally attack you, so you might want...

    I didn't personally attack you, so you might want to stop that now. You are definding thieves, you are even calling them "innocent". That is an objective fact.

    As for "losing", wtf kind of...
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    The issue here is the LVRJ pursuing people who...

    The issue here is the LVRJ pursuing people who have stolen their stuff. Clearly you also don't understand fair use, as "links back" has nothing at all to do with the concept. The LVRJ is Righthave...
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    What innocent bloggers? There are no innocent...

    What innocent bloggers? There are no innocent bloggers here, or at least virtually none since I haven't every single example. These thieves/aggregators/scrapers are guilty bottom feeders who...
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    It is disappointing to see affiliates crying...

    It is disappointing to see affiliates crying tears for thieves. Some rogue affiliates have made a lot of money with this stealing, and boohoo for them they finally have been caught are being made to...
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    Actually it only proves your desire to defend...

    Actually it only proves your desire to defend thieves is stronger than a desire for the truth.

    Here is the LVRJ editorial from June 1.
    Copyright theft: We're not taking it anymore - The Complete...
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    Actually the comparison is in the vast majority...

    Actually the comparison is in the vast majority of the countries beating your family is illegal.

    And saying "I didn't know it was illegal" is no defense.

    And saying "they should have warned...
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    No it's not a loophole. It's the law. And they...

    No it's not a loophole. It's the law. And they aren't extorting people. They are collecting from thieves. At worst, they are extorting from thieves, which is a "awwwww, poooor thieves" thing. ...
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    Um, yeah it's about money. That's what...

    Um, yeah it's about money. That's what copyrights are, the ability to be the only one to have the right to make money with your shit. The primary issue is thieves making money with something...
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    The line is already drawn by the law. Fair use...

    The line is already drawn by the law. Fair use is allowed. Taking more than fair use is not. That is the law, not something up to Righthaven.

    The ESPN article you quoted is fair use, as has...
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    How so is it a horrible precedent? That is one...

    How so is it a horrible precedent? That is one thing it surely is not. If there is one lesson to learn here for people reading this thread and learning about the issue, they are sure going to be...
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    Jeremy, what you sem to not be understanding is...

    Jeremy, what you sem to not be understanding is "taking it down" is not the point.

    What you are advocating is if someone gets caught with a stolen car, if they give it back when asked then all...
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    Let's stop with the "thief as victim" stuff. You...

    Let's stop with the "thief as victim" stuff. You have prior notice to not steal shit. It's called the law.

    The issue here is money. Thieves steal and profit from copyrights that don't belong to...
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    Needlepoint I guess. I'm not sure what Pokerkeep...

    Needlepoint I guess. I'm not sure what Pokerkeep thinks is going on, but obviously the core issue is copyright.
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    Actually it does not. I own the copyright to...

    Actually it does not. I own the copyright to this riveting paragraph I'm writing right here. By posting it on this forum I give PAL the one time rights to use it. The owners of PAL do not have the...
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    False. Um, no. It looks like you don't...

    False.




    Um, no. It looks like you don't understand the issue. There is nothing wrong with fair use. That is not the topic here.
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    Um, no. They bought the copyrights to the...

    Um, no. They bought the copyrights to the stories. They are then going after thieves who stole the articles without permission, and "without contact". They are the rightful owners of the content,...
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    Scary? Who would be scared except a thief? It's...

    Scary? Who would be scared except a thief? It's a great precedent. As for "she thought was required by law", that's either baloney or tremendously stupid on her part. I find it hard to believe...
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