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Thread: The Inside Scoop – Is PokerStars.com becoming the 800-Pound Gorilla In New Jersey?

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    Default The Inside Scoop – Is PokerStars.com becoming the 800-Pound Gorilla In New Jersey?

    I published this up in my weekly column (The Inside Scoop) at PAS.

    The Inside Scoop – Is PokerStars.com becoming the 800-Pound Gorilla In New Jersey?

    Personally I think if Stars gets into New Jersey, they are going to run the table and quickly move back into the #1 spot in the U.S. as more states continue to open up and poker compacts are formed.

    I would love to be able to play at Stars again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I would love to be able to play at Stars again!!!
    This, over and over... and over again.
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    I think 888 is far better than Pokerstars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miky77 View Post
    I think 888 is far better than Pokerstars
    Why? In what ways?

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    I agree that Pokerstars can dominate the US market again, but they will have some competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bauss View Post
    I agree that Pokerstars can dominate the US market again, but they will have some competition.
    No doubt they will have competition. I believe that PokerStars (partnered with Resorts Casino Hotel) will eventually be allowed into the New Jersey and the overall U.S. market.

    Where Pokerstars has a distinct advantage over others just entering the markets are in a few ways:

    1. Existing database of real money and play money players (from Fulltilt as well) that is somewhat recent since they continued to operate post UIGEA and up until Black Friday. In individual states, gaining liquidity will be crucial. Their database can't be denied, they will be able to pick up where they left out.

    2. Existing brand recognition in the U.S. - enough said.

    3. Kick ass software and proven poker platform that most U.S. players would consider to be one of the best in the world.

    There are many more reasons I believe PokerStars will be the market leader in the U.S. by a longshot if allowed into NJ, these are just a few.

    At this point it comes down to politics and lobbyists. Hell, New Jersey knows Poker Stars will take the lions share of the liquidity if they get allowed in. But so do all the other casinos.

    So with that Pokerstars is paying a ton of money to lobbyists.... On top of that they are dumping a ton of money into the state and saying they will "create jobs" <-----(big buzz word in the USA these days), and that they will make NJ their main hub for their U.S. operations.

    The other casinos are paying a ton to lobby the men in suits that they will be shut out and lose money if PokerStars.com is allowed in. Basically it comes down to hand greasing, favors, and under the table deals at this point. Standard practice these days in U.S. politics. And with that said, PokerStars is flushed with money, I'd put the odds on them getting a permit.

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    Couldn't have said it better myself...
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    Don't forget if foreign players are ever allowed to pool in with US states somehow, Stars could make the liquidity way better than anyone else instantly.
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    Think of it this way in simple terms as well. Prior to April 15th 2011, what % of U.S. real money players with any legitimate player value at least had an account at either Poker Stars or Full Tilt? I'd say that % is enormous. Of the real money players that didn't have an account for whatever reason (played at AP, UB, whatever), what % of these players recognize the Poker Stars brand? BINGO

    Poker Stars, with it's clever bail out of FT already owns the U.S. market. They just haven't been given the green light. While the other casino's will be leveraging their B&M player database as well as buying billboards and millions of dollars of media within New Jersey, PokerStars will simply press a button, send a few emails, and throw some big tournament and just like that, they will have all the market share.

    Other rooms will get a bit of action from the tire kickers, but with lack of liquidity will be unable to retain players.

    For the old timers, think of it like this back in the day. Why would you consistently play at an Everleaf room with no rake back and no action when you could go to Stars and Tilt and have a smorgasbord of poker action with a better loyalty scheme?

    So will Stars be given a permit? Enquiring minds want to know. I wish I was a New Jersey legislator or regulator though.......I'd be retiring to an island somewhere by next year courtesy of the gambling industry without ever having to make a bet!

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    There is no way that players pools in the US will be shared with foreign player pools; unless they can start to attribute tax collections on individual player revenue (rake) generation per hand. And if pools were merged then issue that one licensed jurisdiction would want all the tax collected ok whole pool and the old issue of where the server is located v where does the transaction take place. If Spain and Italy can't work it out after 2 years, I guarantee US regulators won't act any quicker, hence I don't believe player pools will ever be merged again.
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